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L-arginine activates elemicin EVERY TIME when done correctly. This needs to be tested by everyone who hasnt gotten Elemi Oil to work.
(This post below was originally posted in another thread, but I think it needs to be focused on in its own thread here.)
Excess dietary L-Argnine produces pyrrolidine in humans. Pyrrolidine is mostly made from L-arginine by bacteria in the colon (large intestines), long after excess passes through the small intestines. I have heard that L-argnine can take anywhere from 3 or more hours to reach the large intestines. It depends greatly on what other foods are taken with it.
For this reason, supplementing with L-arginine will not produce immediate results. Simply taking L-arginine directly with allylbenenes is not going to work well. You need to predose with L-arginine.
The synchronicity on this forum never ceases to amaze me!
I've been testing pyrrolidines with a focus on L-arginine for the past couple of days, and I can attest that having a surplus of pyrrolidine in my body makes ELEMICIN WORK EVERY TIME, even on consecutive days!
That's very impressive. I will have to get some myself to test with, probably today. My local pharmacy has it. Most places that sell amino acids have it.
I hadn't read the Oilhausca Activation page on Herbpedia in awhile, and the other day I scanned through all the updates and noticed the 69ron had added a statement about L-arginine forming pyrrolidine in vivo, specifically in the small intestine. A lightbulb went off in my head and I started to connect all of the dots of elements that had preceded successful activation in the past. For instance, eating eggs 2-3 hours prior, even though a good source of Lysine and Choline, would also supplement about 800 mg of L-arginine and convert to pyrrolidine in the gut. Also the curious success after working out at the gym was not due to the body's increased methylation, but rather, the Arginine content of the pre-workout drink that I had ingested. I considered the possibility of this in the past and tried taking 500mg of L-arginine in pill form along with the oils, and after having no success, shelved the idea. I was failing to realize that, like Lysine, Arginine needs to be taken far enough in advance to be digested by the small intestine. It was all starting to make sense. I also recalled having greater success on days that I ate large amounts of hummus (love the stuff).
To test this theory, I started eating foods high in L-arginine for every meal, specifically 2-3 hours prior to use of elemicin. The easiest way is to cook with tahini (sesame seed paste). It slips easily into oatmeal, soups, smoothies, and even PB&J sandwiches. The first day, 2 drops of calamus, 2 drops of anise seed, and 10 drops of elemi transdermally resulted in euphoria, stimulation, cev, and lucid dreaming! The onset was 20 minutes and peaked around 1-2 hours, lasting about 6 hours. At this point I thought that it could still be a fluke, so yesterday (the very next day) I tried the same test, but with a more complicated set of inhibitors similar to what Hendrix has recently described. Exact same result, slightly less intense, reminiscent of MDMA and much more prolonged. In fact, I'm still feeling the electric stimulation 14 hours in. The effects would wax and wane, are enhanced by music and coffee, and for some reason seem enhanced by continual eating of L-arginine rich foods (shellfish, sesame, almonds, soy protein, garbanzo, eggs). It doesnt make sense from my current understanding of allybenzene theory. Additional pyrrolidine introduced after the alkaloids have already formed shouldnt have any effect. Another pyrrolidine supplementation method that I would like to try is carrot greens. According to wikipedia, they contain pyrrolidine, and if its true, then are the only known food source. That would allow someone to ingest the supplementation at the same time as the oils and still see a benefit.
I encourage folks who've had trouble with elemicin to try this method. For me, L-arginine was the missing piece of the puzzle. Also, Im not sure I agree with twister's warning about L-arginine supplementation having negative consequences. Food sources are extremely safe and can supply upwards of 45 grams per serving! The only side effect that I've observed is an increased libido and the readiness of my soldier to enter battle.
Ok. After reading that part about the food sources being used instead of pure L-arginine, my enthusiasm went down a bit. Are you sure it's the L-arginine and not something else present in these L-arginine containing foods?