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I just did a test using phenylethylamine with MAO-B and SSAO inhbitors.
Here's the timeline so far:
T-0:20 Oral: 1500 mg glucosamine HCl (SSAO inhibitor)
T-0:05 EFFECTS: I feel the SSAO effects of glucosamine already. It's nice but mild.
T+0:00 Oral: 1500 mg glucosamine HCl, 500 mg phenylethylamine HCl, 100 mg hordenine freebase, 100 mg rutin, 1 cup of Folger's instant coffee.
T+0:06 EFFECTS: I feel an uneasy feeling, slightly tight throat, very slight nausea. This is typical for me when using phenylethylamine if the MAO-B inhibitors are a bit late to take effect.
T+0:10 EFFECTS: the same + I feel a bit stimulated and slightly nervous.
T+0:15 EFFECTS: the uneasy feeling in the stomach and throat are fading. I feel a pleasant LSD-like electric feeling. I am getting extremely sensitive to loud sound.
T+0:25 EFFECTS: euphoria and tingling sensations are just starting. I feel pretty good. The uneasy feeling has passed. I don't feel the typical mushy feeling I usually get from phenylethylamine. It feels much sharper, crisper, more like an LSD-style stimulant than usual. THIS IS VERY NICE!
T+1:00 EFFECTS: music sounds great! There's some euphoria, but it's mostly dependent on external stimuli. There's a pleasant tingling sensation all over the body. Sense of touch is enhanced. It's definitely mildly psychedelic, and much stronger than without the SSAO inhibitor.
T+2:00 EFFECTS: the effects are a bit weaker but pretty much the same. At this point I have another cup of coffee.
This was much stronger than I would have expected from 500 mg phenylethylamine HCl with just the MAO-B inhibitors (hordenine and rutin). However the effects are different.
Normally when I use phenylethylamine with MAO-B inhibitors there are 2 very distinct phases.
Phase 1: I taste and smell phenylethylamine strongly. My sweat smells like it. I feel a bit uneasy, especially in the throat and stomach. This phase usually ends in about 45 minutes.
Phase 2: at this point, 1 hour after, that phenylehylamine taste and smell is no longer present. The effects shift and are much more pleasant. The effects at that point are more mental and not so body oriented.
With the SSAO inhibitor, it never gets to phase 2. It stays in phase 1. My sweat continues to smell like phenylethylamine. I continue to taste it in my mouth too. Phenylethylamine has a very specific taste and odor. It's pretty strong.
It appears that with an MAO-B inhibitor only, the phenylethylamine gets metabolized at about the 1 hour point by SSAO and becomes a much more pleasant compound. With SSO inhibited, that phase 2 compound doesn't get created, or at least its not noticeable.
On the plus side, the effects are not mushy or sedating. But I feel it much more in the body. Its a lessor experience for me overall, but its way stronger.